Hey Dave...

topic posted Fri, September 7, 2007 - 7:11 PM by  Zanne
How does it work to be an empath and to have such pain as well? Do you think they work together? Do you feel like your empathy for others influences your harrington rod pain? JEEZ! I'm asking and wondering because it seems like too much for just one person to bear. How do you do it man?

Namaste and bless you,
Z
posted by:
Zanne
Boston
  • Re: Hey Dave...

    Sat, September 8, 2007 - 12:50 AM
    Oh totally if I allow it to internalize, of course I feel like shit.

    Frankly, I think all forms of self-medication is evidence that this is going on to some degree for those folks (guilty!)
    • Re: Hey Dave...

      Sat, September 8, 2007 - 1:13 AM
      I was afraid of that answer - I didn't know if it was more of a spiritual pain or if it manifested physically for you. I am no empath, but sincerely wonder at it all.

      I'm guilty too, but I reckon being a stoner isn't so bad.
      • Re: Hey Dave...

        Sat, September 8, 2007 - 1:17 AM
        totally.

        Religion is a big problem with this. The idea that one is somehow separate from God, and that one must be saved, and that one is not worthy of being saved except by Grace and that one is imperfect is just mind-boggling. Why we continue to allow this to destroy people's lives day after day just freaks me the fuck out.
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          Re: Hey Dave...

          Mon, September 10, 2007 - 12:41 AM
          hi
          Well, I just spent the better part of an hour composing a response, only to lose it -- some problem or other with the site. Now, I can't do that one over (probably means I was being too wordy!) And having half my life taken by CP leaves a lot of room for stories of all kinds. (I think there still exists my original stable here when I first began and might be some info if you are interested in knowing more about me -- though CP doesn't allow you that ease or freedom. I just wanted to comment on the "creative" aspect. During the years since '05, I've come to realize that there are other facets of my person hood that I'd not even known about.. I'm sketching, drawing, want to get some paints, sculpting...and I've always written (gets that loop in there, going round and round, til nobody's found!). After spending over 30 years of my life in hard 24/7 pain, badgering every individual with an MD after their name, I became aware that they didn't know either. Yet, I had to follow their rules just to get by.
          I confess to feeling some guilt over not having done more with the Advocacy issue here in San Diego (but then after the pneumonia, the move, the seizure, and the fall, I've kinda been waiting for the dust to settle (plus had to give car up as it was too expensive to repair). I'm learning (again) how to live my life with the constraints and frustrations we all encounter.
          I want to be able to hook-up with some Volunteer group so I can feel that I'm doing something for someone else. I learned a long time ago that the best treatment for depression for ME, was to be "other-oriented". Sure there are obstacles to be overcome; there always are!
          My neck is now howling so I better cease -- all take care! of you first,

          my love,
          ~A.

          My website: rumorsofme.spaces.live.com

          Take care of your needs first and watch how sweetly you bloom!
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            Re: Hey Dave...

            Mon, September 10, 2007 - 1:18 AM
            hi,

            just a note here. The nexus of the empath and someone in CP is overwhelming ; and has resulted that I live a reclusive lifestyle. I've been in these apts. for 2 years now and pretty much people "get" that I prefer to be left on my own. And it isn't that I don''t care....OMG, Do I ever care!! But I've had to come to some biting realizations---I can help no one if I am down. To give something to somebody, you must first think : "Do I have this, e.g., time to talk idly, sip coffee and gossip, hang out in the lounge to jury the individual's strains. The only think I've learned from judging that is that I usually wind up with a real live lemon pie, right in my face (others don't see it but I know I felt it there!) We all have something to bring to the table. Depression is one of the hardest companions to CP. Basically, I am almost l00% kinesthetic in my approach to life. This makes it all quite troublesome but with or without the understanding of others (family) and really they are beginning to understand. I can't be away from my room for unknown amounts of time. I just get very anxious. I don't see me becoming Miss Hospitality this time around. I do feel too much and whereas I used to just swallow it down, I now realize how much harm I've done to my body by not listening to it. I'm working on it.
            Chronic Pain in this country is so maligned, misunderstood, defiled and those ideas are are some wanting only to happy to share with us, their patient. quizzes. Obviously I've learned much about others and myself. And I don't beat myself up as badly as I once did. We are each responsible for our lives (to the degree that we can accommodate them without pulling on ourselves. Where you find a way , that is someone else's way, you must search for your self the way you would go. Pay attention to the "road signs" -- just do a reality check now and then.. I know that having a base network is probably alien to some (I've never been one to have hordes of people lining up to be my friend. I prefer small intimate gatherings of like-minded people. What is next? I don't know but do know that the WAY has an opening, I'm "marginal" at best. Yet I am learning to be patient with myself, to see beyond the "dire circumstances"
            Leave my mind a clearing to meditate.
            ~A.

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