so...i take neurontin, as well as an ever decreasing amount of seupedol, topomax, and vitamins, b12, magnesium, omegas, ect ect ect
and it's been brought to my attention- that some of these things have very interesting interactions, which my doctor is either unaware of, or just too lazy too inform me of...
i thought i'd share in case any one else is on this combo too.
www.adrugrecall.com/neuronti...ntin.html
www.crazymeds.org/neurontin.html
Neurontin (gabapentin) is basically a neurotransmitter in a pill. Rather, it's
close to the neurotransmitter GABA. GABA can't cross the blood-brain barrier.
True synthesized GABA would have to be injected straight into your noggin. Sorry
to make you cringe. The point is, unlike most psychiatric drugs, what you take
in the capsule (or tablet or oral solution) is what more-or-less what works in
your brain. Neurontin (gabapentin) doesn't need your liver to make what really
does the job. That means it will play well with practically every other
medication there is, right? For us crazies and spazzes, that's right. The only
thing we have to be careful with is stuff like Maalox. As a lot of meds cause
tummy troubles, a lot of us use OTC remedies like Maalox. Maalox interferes a
bit with Neurontin (gabapentin). You just have to wait a couple hours after
taking antacids to take Neurontin (gabapentin).
But people who take Neurontin (gabapentin) for pain, and that includes a lot of
us crazies, as fibromyalgia is far too common in the bipolar community,
Neurontin (gabapentin) has a weird drug-drug interaction with opiates. The
opiates make Neurontin (gabapentin) work better, but the Neurontin (gabapentin)
makes the opiates less efficient! It's weird, and since Neurontin (gabapentin)
isn't really metabolized, who the hell knows what the deal is with that. This is
spelled out in the PI sheet, but who reads those, right? When you take
Neurontin (gabapentin) along with hydrocodone (a.k.a. Vicodin), it decreases the
bioavailability of the hydrocodone by up to 22%! While the bioavailability of
Neurontin (gabapentin) is increased by 14%. It's even odder when combined with
morphine. As Mouse points out there's an element of timing involved, as the
one article on the interaction has morphine administered two hours before the
Neurontin (gabapentin). The morphine was unaffected, having pretty much been
on its way towards peak plasma, but the Neurontin (gabapentin) bioavailability
was increased by a whopping 44%! We have no idea if this effect carries over to
the artificial opiods, like Demerol or buprenorphine.
Meanwhile taking naproxen (a.k.a. Aleve) increases Neurontin's bioavailability
by 12-15%, while there is no apparent affect on naproxen's bioavailability.
and it's been brought to my attention- that some of these things have very interesting interactions, which my doctor is either unaware of, or just too lazy too inform me of...
i thought i'd share in case any one else is on this combo too.
www.adrugrecall.com/neuronti...ntin.html
www.crazymeds.org/neurontin.html
Neurontin (gabapentin) is basically a neurotransmitter in a pill. Rather, it's
close to the neurotransmitter GABA. GABA can't cross the blood-brain barrier.
True synthesized GABA would have to be injected straight into your noggin. Sorry
to make you cringe. The point is, unlike most psychiatric drugs, what you take
in the capsule (or tablet or oral solution) is what more-or-less what works in
your brain. Neurontin (gabapentin) doesn't need your liver to make what really
does the job. That means it will play well with practically every other
medication there is, right? For us crazies and spazzes, that's right. The only
thing we have to be careful with is stuff like Maalox. As a lot of meds cause
tummy troubles, a lot of us use OTC remedies like Maalox. Maalox interferes a
bit with Neurontin (gabapentin). You just have to wait a couple hours after
taking antacids to take Neurontin (gabapentin).
But people who take Neurontin (gabapentin) for pain, and that includes a lot of
us crazies, as fibromyalgia is far too common in the bipolar community,
Neurontin (gabapentin) has a weird drug-drug interaction with opiates. The
opiates make Neurontin (gabapentin) work better, but the Neurontin (gabapentin)
makes the opiates less efficient! It's weird, and since Neurontin (gabapentin)
isn't really metabolized, who the hell knows what the deal is with that. This is
spelled out in the PI sheet, but who reads those, right? When you take
Neurontin (gabapentin) along with hydrocodone (a.k.a. Vicodin), it decreases the
bioavailability of the hydrocodone by up to 22%! While the bioavailability of
Neurontin (gabapentin) is increased by 14%. It's even odder when combined with
morphine. As Mouse points out there's an element of timing involved, as the
one article on the interaction has morphine administered two hours before the
Neurontin (gabapentin). The morphine was unaffected, having pretty much been
on its way towards peak plasma, but the Neurontin (gabapentin) bioavailability
was increased by a whopping 44%! We have no idea if this effect carries over to
the artificial opiods, like Demerol or buprenorphine.
Meanwhile taking naproxen (a.k.a. Aleve) increases Neurontin's bioavailability
by 12-15%, while there is no apparent affect on naproxen's bioavailability.
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Re: neurontin for everyone
Thu, May 12, 2005 - 8:06 AMps- i take slight(ok more than slight) offence to the use of the words crazzies and spazzes in this article, but hey...what can you do? -
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Re: neurontin for everyone
Mon, June 13, 2005 - 11:29 AMI think it was to be facetious.
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Re: neurontin for everyone
Fri, June 6, 2008 - 6:56 PMgabapentin makes an opiate session go bad.
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Re: neurontin for everyone
Thu, May 26, 2005 - 1:26 PMoh my god, no wonder my pain meds aren't working well!!!
thanks for sharing this info, kit. this is something i'll be bringing to my doctor's attention.
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Re: neurontin for everyone
Sat, June 7, 2008 - 6:48 AMThis is interesting. I thought that neurontin and topomax were very similar. They are both officially listed for seizures. I didn't think one should take both together. Do you fill everything at the same pharmacy? Did you ever take a moment to talk to the pharmacist about what you're taking, both RX and OTC stuff? It's good to mention because most of us don't think of herbals and vitamin supplements as "drugs" even though they can interact and change the way the meds work. Heck, even grapefruit juice can be a big deal. -
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Re: neurontin for everyone
Sat, June 7, 2008 - 10:19 AMYeah... I was given topamax and it made me lose weight and feel like crap. When I was on oxycontin for 3 years 3 x /day along with my neurontin it was a strange brew. Love the neurontin but would pass on the narcs any time.
If being on a mitigating cocktail of things that have psychopharm implications I read and read somemore because even tho I have a license that includes Rxing privs, I'd rather not experiment by adding to someone's clearance or other interactive issues.
No new drugs for me and I am convinced that Celebrex doesn't have much bang, not compared to Vioxx.
As with any kind of chemical, you are an individual and YMMV. Just look at the pic in totality because in fact, you are the one who lives with the intake as well as the outcome.
Food, as nutrients and not as a source of profound enjoyment or ranging to misery is indeed a compilation of drugs or natural precursors we make ourselves. So drug free? I am not a breatharian.
The more I learn the more I don't know. I just start reading. They're not experts in me esp when "they" "practice" medicine.
my few dinars-
MA
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Re: neurontin for everyone
Sat, June 7, 2008 - 12:08 PMNeurontin has done a very good job of managing that 'flash point' pain for me. I still get those deep, sharp, very localized pains now and again, but not as much as the pre-neurontin days. Didn't do much for the all over achiness and fatigue, though. Tried Lyrica for that, but found the Vicodin to be much more effective.
I always make sure that each and every doctor I see, as well as the pharmacist, knows ALL the meds I am taking, including those prescribed by the other doc(s). If you're not sure, TAKE THE CONSULT from the pharmacist.
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